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THE TALK

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An RTÉ Player Original, The Talk discusses real life issues from a personal perspective. There’s no presenter or media personality to ask the probing questions. Instead, two people have ‘the talk’ – an open and honest conversation about an issue that’s close to their hearts.

Sometimes, the most important conversations are the most difficult.

Two new episodes of The Talk will be available on RTÉ Player on 18 January – Body Image and IVF.

Body Image

Overview:

In this episode, four young women discuss how they feel about their bodies. From childhood diets to dating and bullying, this is an honest and emotional insight into the impact of body image on our lives today.

First on the agenda is the topic of growing up. Curvy model Jessica Cinelli recalls a desire to diet at the age of eight, while comedian and content creator Justine Stafford details the school bullying that spurred her to lose more than half her body weight in three months.

Beauty content creator Jen Morris also describes her wish to lose weight as a child.

“I vividly remember when I was young, thinking, like, if I could just get a little bit sick. Like, if I could get some kind of disease, that I would be sick enough that I wouldn’t die, but that I would be skinny. Because that’s all I cared about – trying to be small and be like all the girls and everyone I was seeing. And like, I’m not going to say it’s something I thought about once, I thought about it often.”

Plus size model and blogger Brenda Mangwandi discusses the worst things that have been said to her, describing an ex-boyfriend who constantly compared her to a slimmer friend. She goes on to say:

“The peak of it was when he said, ‘I am tired of defending dating you to my friends because they are saying, why am I with this fat person’.”

Jen mentions the embarrassment of being cornered on a train by an elderly woman who recommended a diet to her, saying “When you’re bigger, people just feel like they can tell you anything. Because they feel like they are helping you.”

She goes on to advise “I just feel like you should never comment on someone’s body… Just don’t say it. It’s none of your business, you know, it’s not your body. Just back off.”

Social Media is the next topic on the table. Jen talks about her work as a beauty content creator and explains that no matter how hard she works in her industry, she feels she will never reach the success of her slimmer colleagues.

Brenda describes being accused of promoting obesity after winning a beauty pageant. But rather than letting this discourage her, she decided to use her platform to promote a positive body image and to inspire others.

Justine also used her platform to shine a light on her experiences. After writing an article for World Mental Health Day, she was inundated with messages from readers and acquaintances who had gone through similar experiences. She never regretted her decision to open up, saying “If I’d have known that so many people at that time, unfortunately, were going through so many similar things, the difference it would have made to me. We are far more open about talking about these things that you can feel not so alone going through it.”

Next on the agenda is the word ‘fat’. Jessica talks about the power that this word held over her for so many years. She has since taken the power out of the word, saying: “I call myself fat all the time now. I’m like – I’m fat – and what?!”

Jessica goes on to describe how her struggles with weight curbed her enjoyment of life for many years. But after having her son, she gained a new-found gratitude for her body and the realisation that life is for living.

Contributors:

Jen Morris is a beauty content creator from Clonmel, Co. Tipperary.

Justine Stafford is a comedian and content creator from Nobber in Co. Meath.

Jessica Cinelli is a curvy model. She is half Italian and grew up in Dublin. She has a son, Leo.

Brenda Mangwandi is a blogger and plus size model. She is originally from Zimbabwe and has a daughter, Nevaeh

IVF and Surrogacy

Overview:

This episode focuses on four journeys through IVF and Surrogacy. From the highs and lows to the costs and legal issues, these firsthand accounts give an honest and enlightening insight into the realities of IVF and Surrogacy.

We meet Lucy Fallon, who was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 29. Lucy and her husband Cormac had always wanted a family and surrogacy made their dream a reality.

Lucy explains “When you’re in a position where you’ve dreamt about it for so long, you’ve watched all your friends and family, you’ve gone to every christening you can possibly go to and you’re at the stage where – look – it’s your last option.”

Lucy and Cormac went on to have twins Luchia and Lauren through surrogacy.

Describing the feeling of being a Mum, Lucy explains “From the time the girls were able to say it I was like, that’s just my favorite word. I can’t believe they’re saying it, I can’t believe someone’s calling me Mammy.”

Sara Byrne has cystic fibrosis and underwent a lung transplant. Before getting engaged to husband Padraig, she was advised against carrying a child herself. “We made the decision that we had to go down the surrogacy road because I just couldn’t do that to my child that maybe to put myself at risk – that if I was going to be a Mammy, I wanted to be around for a long time.” She details the ups and downs of their journey to pursue surrogacy in the Ukraine, saying “The minute that Alice was born, all of the years of turmoil and grief and pain – I would do it again in the morning”.

Ranae von Meding and her wife Audrey decided to grow their family in 2015. They used Reciprocal IVF so that they could use Audrey’s eggs and Ranae could carry their babies. But they had no idea of the legal battles that they would face after their babies were born.

Gearóid Kenny Moore and his husband Seamus always knew they wanted to be parents. The road to having a family was not without its bumps but they went on to have twins Sean and Mary and youngest daughter Anne through surrogacy. Gearóid recounts his delight at the reaction to his twins when he introduced them to the rural community where he grew up.

“Everybody just wanted to meet these babies. And you could tell there was like a – just a feeling amongst people that like, this is special. And our country has jumped forward thirty years in like a five-year period. And like again, nobody cared about the IVF or the surrogacy…All they wanted to know was that there were two kids who had been born into a family where they were going to be loved and cared for…it was just an outpouring of joy because two children had been born.”

Contributors:

Lucy Fallon is a qualified financial advisor who currently advocates for surrogacy and some cancer charities. Lucy and her husband Cormac had twin girls, Luchia and Lauren, through surrogacy.

Sara Byrne is a campaigner for Irish Families Through Surrogacy. Sara and her husband Pádraig had daughter Alice through surrogacy.

Gearóid Kenny Moore is a stay-at-home parent and a campaigner in relation to parental rights for LGBT parents. Gearóid and his husband Seamus had their three children through the support of a surrogate – twins Sean and Mary and youngest daughter Anne.

Ranae von Meding is an activist, writer and presenter. Ranae and her wife Audrey conceived their two daughters through Reciprocal IVF.